A simple yet satisfying solution to informal settlers...

Do you think ugly buildings should be put on a blacklist? Is there a building that you'd like to see demolished and etc.? it's a huge Architectural Engineering disaster! Hey you? what's your idea? Click here on my FB wall...

Irgéorge Pecore · ... at Your Online Friend

Architecture and human rights! :)

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Irgéorge Pecore · ... at Your Online Friend

Do you think ugly buildings should be put on a blacklist? Is there a building that you'd like to see demolished and etc. it's a huge Architectural Engineering disaster! Hey you, what's your idea?

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Se Cris · Subscribed · Managing Partner at Hulsta Studio · 120 subscribers

Irgéorge Pecore what is UGLY? l would only restrict the construction of NEW ugly buildings! Never demolish the old ones, but only improving them!

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Irgéorge Pecore · ... at Your Online Friend

Thanks! We're just living in this world of GOOD and BAD ideas...Others are relying only to self without even a shared collaboration, 6+ or more different aspects of design of several planners and designers in order to met the desired goals and etc. Once again, however, the lack of political will to restructure and distribute power...Lastly, it has become evident that the bourgeoning of the informal settlements is a physical manifestation of the widespread urban poverty. Therefore, for a practical and workable solution any policy or planning intervention will need to go hand in hand with the poverty reduction strategies as outlined in the poverty reduction plan...POLITICS,POLITICS!!! :)

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Edna Pedrajas · Consultant at United Nations

ahh! George, my dear...they're pretty...a solution seen through the eyes of an architect...but, we always know there's something more than that meets the eye.. the problem of slum dwellers is never an architectural problem...but, architecture is a vital component of the solution to that problem.. it's about looking back to the principles and concepts of Brazilia. Anyway, primarily, slum dwellers come to where they can afford to live. They have they're own lifestyle. Removing the aspect of affordability will make they're lifestyle disappear. And like an unfinished canvass, anything can happen when all the colors are there. Nice page, my friend...

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Irgéorge Pecore · ... at Your Online Friend

Thanks, hopefully we will come up soon with the solution and not the problem...With the implementations of rules and regulations, anything could happen nor in the long terms...These problems remain unsolved ever since! :)

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Dan Nicolae Agent · Subscribed · Elegate Administrator at Dan Agent Studio SRL

It's hard to take a decision in this direction. What is good and what is bad? We discuss about architecture but it is celar that more than 90% of building production cannot be considered as being architecture but merely construction resulted structures. I think that communities may decide if some structures are allowed to be built in their area of living or not but as the structure is built and if all the rules are respected nobody can say: it is not good, let's demolish it. After Centre Pompidou of Piano&Rogers was built there were a majority of parisian inhabitants voices to say that this was scandalous and now... Centre Beaubourg is one of the reasons for a parisian to be proud this building exists. Speaking about vernacular production and slums "buildings" the problem is if they affect in a way ior another the well being of the area and if the answer is "yes" then the community through administration tools fcan decide to clean the area. But this is not a problem of architects but a community problem so a politics problem. I think architects never were decision-makers and I do not know if this is good or not.

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Gavin Tonks · Subscribed · Johannesburg, Gauteng

very nice only problem is we have mosquitoes and it gets very very cold on the water which then requires heating which poor people cannot really afford, and with temprature inverion over water we have clouds of carbon monoxide and other carcinogens until around 11pm when the sun burns off the layer - so it looks pretty but is not a solution here.

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Phillip Newmarch · University of Natal, Durban

A good point, Gavin Tonks

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Gavin Tonks · Subscribed · Johannesburg, Gauteng

the problem is cost follows function and standards are related to cost so change cost and we could have more elegant buildings.

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Irgéorge Pecore · ... at Your Online Friend

Thanks! Both of you are politically correct...And the problem now is how ?Many of whom are living in danger zones, the good, the bad and The ugly of living n this earth are all humans problem around the globe. The rules of law are being ignored and government neglect are so obvious ever since the world begun including its environmental impact. We're just dealing with a long term solutions if these rules are all being implemented. A vast majority of the dwellers live in extremely poor conditions. A rapid increase in the urban population and the limited capacity of the government to meet the high demand for building plots has led to mushrooming of the informal settlements.

I hope there will be a number of policies to be implemented and planning initiatives have been taken to address the old problems associated with the informal settlements, including some old and BAD buildings! :)

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Gavin Tonks · Subscribed · Johannesburg, Gauteng

Irgéorge Pecore we have the policies and the will, jsut the corrupt steal the money before it gets to benfit, we have a mixed living model near me which we put a lot of objections too and it has green lungs etc, but the demand sof the urban poor ar real. We plant trees for the carbon footprint and the urban poor from other countries chop down indigenous trees because they burn better leaving the invasive rubbish

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Gavin Tonks · Subscribed · Johannesburg, Gauteng

Irgéorge Pecore The other problem is being transient they have no allegiance to the "place of stay" and 5 000 people come and go in a 3 year period to access work and go back, so degradation of water resources is shocking plus no discipline in hygiene is it were their own homes, brings rats and flies and piles of stinking garbage because they are just too lazy to put it properly at collection points

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Gavin Tonks · Subscribed · Johannesburg, Gauteng

the other problem we would have here is the serious alcohol abuse we would have a drowning a weekend.

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Irgéorge Pecore · ... at Your Online Friend

I know there have been a number of experiments with regard to spatial planning and land management laws but so far, nothing happens due to government neglect and can't afford enough...

The only place that allows this common practice to take place is in an unplanned area where neither drawing nor building permits are required. Thus, a vicious circle is created whereby poverty leads to informal settlements and informal settlements breed poverty....

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Gavin Tonks · Subscribed · Johannesburg, Gauteng

Irgéorge Pecore our informal settlements have become rental areas where they are placed in close proximity to work, so people rent the shacks while they work in the areas and do not care about anything else. The other problem is the advent of illegal business that create no go areas and promote prostiution, drugs and alcohol buse and then fence the criminal activity so there are very few genuine people at risk 300 / 4500 shacks

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